From: Mark Fowler Date: 13:13 on 30 Oct 2003 Subject: Panther Hate Don't get me wrong. I quite like a lot of Panther, but I hate a lot of the new stuff too. And I've only been using if for an hour or so. First up, the installer is stupid. It keeps displaying random bars with random text. Installing foo. Processing foo. I'm not entirely sure what installing does if it's not processing the files (and vice versa,) but apparently it's a seperate thing. And the times are widly wrong. And you think you're done and it just switches to another random installation stage. I hate (I mean, really, really dispise) that Apple want to put my whole name "Mark Fowler" on the menubar for fast user switching. That's the most valuable screen real estate in the world, and they want my whole name there. Dumb. DUMB. DUMB! I just set up a new account for guest users to use my system, and I wanted to change thier default browser to be Camino. I spent ten minutes looking in every single tab in System Preferences until I finally remembered that they'd moved it inside Safari. So I have to load up Safari to tell it not to load Safari, but load something else instead. Huh? What kind of logic is this? Don't get me started on the weird expose bug where it would trigger every time I switched applications. Odd. I hate the new finder. I had nice icons set up there so I could drag things onto things onto the toolbar and things like opening a shell window or loading the file in emacs or setting the directory as the default location would happen. Now the space where the toolbar was is a large fake metal section and all my icons are down the side of the page taking up stupid amounts of space. I'm sure I can replace these with Folder Actions or something, but damnit, my old solution worked. Oh, and would it really have killed Apple to compile in X11 support for emacs? No, I don't think so.
From: Chris Ball
Date: 14:03 on 30 Oct 2003
Subject: Re: Panther Hate
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 01:13:07PM +0000, Mark Fowler wrote:
> First up, the installer is stupid. It keeps displaying random bars with
> random text. Installing foo. Processing foo.
It sounds like it's actually using ("Processing %s", packageName), which
gives us the HCI disaster of "Processing Korean" instead of "Installing
Korean Language Extensions", etc.
Oh, and do we know what "Optimizing System Performance" *really* means?
I've heard two different explanations:
* It means "I'm changing the file permissions on the stuff I just
installed."
* It means "I'm pre-processing dynamic link information for the newly
installed dynamic libraries."
*sigh*
- Chris.
From: aglet Date: 14:20 on 30 Oct 2003 Subject: Re: Panther Hate Chris Ball wrote: [...] > Oh, and do we know what "Optimizing System Performance" *really* means? > I've heard two different explanations: > > * It means "I'm changing the file permissions on the stuff I just > installed." > * It means "I'm pre-processing dynamic link information for the newly > installed dynamic libraries." Run top while it's "processing" -- it appears to be the latter.
From: Michael G Schwern Date: 22:27 on 30 Oct 2003 Subject: Re: Panther Hate On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 02:03:30PM +0000, Chris Ball wrote: > Oh, and do we know what "Optimizing System Performance" *really* means? > I've heard two different explanations: > > * It means "I'm changing the file permissions on the stuff I just > installed." > * It means "I'm pre-processing dynamic link information for the newly > installed dynamic libraries." Its doing dynamic library prebinding according to the fink folks.
From: Piers Cawley Date: 14:16 on 30 Oct 2003 Subject: Re: Panther Hate Mark Fowler <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> writes: > I hate the new finder. I had nice icons set up there so I could drag > things onto things onto the toolbar and things like opening a shell window > or loading the file in emacs or setting the directory as the default > location would happen. Now the space where the toolbar was is a large > fake metal section and all my icons are down the side of the page taking > up stupid amounts of space. I'm sure I can replace these with Folder > Actions or something, but damnit, my old solution worked. I just discovered you can still drag stuff onto the fake metal area too.
From: Mark Fowler Date: 14:25 on 30 Oct 2003 Subject: Re: Panther Hate On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Piers Cawley wrote: > I just discovered you can still drag stuff onto the fake metal area too. Oh! So you can. But not directly from the things on the left hand side. You know, I can't see a reason why you couldn't do that. That's pretty damn hateful. Mark.
From: peter (Peter da Silva) Date: 14:57 on 30 Oct 2003 Subject: Re: Panther Hate > Oh! So you can. But not directly from the things on the left hand side. Can you drag the things on the left hand side anywhere?
From: Tom Insam Date: 15:35 on 30 Oct 2003 Subject: Re: Panther Hate On Oct 30, 2003, at 14:16, Piers Cawley wrote: > I just discovered you can still drag stuff onto the fake metal area > too. > Aaah, so you can. but only if you have 'customize toolbar' on. Which (a) is different from jaguar, and (b) ensures there's a damn great sheet in front of the thing I want to drag onto the toolbar. Yay. .tom
From: Piers Cawley Date: 19:58 on 30 Oct 2003 Subject: Re: Panther Hate Tom Insam <tom@xxxxxxxx.xxx> writes: > On Oct 30, 2003, at 14:16, Piers Cawley wrote: >> I just discovered you can still drag stuff onto the fake metal area >> too. >> > Aaah, so you can. but only if you have 'customize toolbar' on. Which > (a) is different from jaguar, and (b) ensures there's a damn great > sheet in front of the thing I want to drag onto the toolbar. Yay. Um... <drags file onto toolbar, it stays there>... works for me without having customize toolbar turned on...
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